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@sshane sshane commented Dec 5, 2025

The data is telling. Not many users are using this feature, and the few that are are experiencing faults due to openpilot's slow startup. This is because the PCM expects to receive ACC_CONTROL messages in a timely manner after ignition, but openpilot is busy doing its fingerprinting. Only after the fingerprint has been cached and the user leaves their car off for 5 minutes does it sometimes work. At least this was the state 4 years ago.

A better replacement for this would be to disable DSU like we do radar.

Last 180 days
Users with DSU unplugged 19
Users with cars able to have their DSUs unplugged 686
Total checked Toyota users 2345

Dongle: 909f4a3e0b0fb44e
  83/83 routes with unplugged DSU
  35 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (42.2%)
Dongle: abe7ab592ef78b30
  136/160 routes with unplugged DSU
  83 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (61.0%)
Dongle: 1aebea19db2491b7
  253/253 routes with unplugged DSU
  92 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (36.4%)
Dongle: 2a7a6fe239747c52
  95/105 routes with unplugged DSU
  18 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (18.9%)
Dongle: 1abeae415b49056c
  1/1 routes with unplugged DSU
  1 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (100.0%)
Dongle: 88f4cb3b22d3a6d7
  11/248 routes with unplugged DSU
  10 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (90.9%)
Dongle: 9813e4ee4e676cd3
  6/6 routes with unplugged DSU
  1 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (16.7%)
Dongle: 980f5072cabe7e1e
  4/145 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 447bab0555a5f52c
  4/122 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 96167b24cf2b3098
  2/189 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 9dbe5fc07c4f6297
  1/2 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 7c0ffc151420a4bf
  1/4 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: c4dfc6afe72093a3
  1/108 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 515af24389f8a32c
  1/83 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 800808aede841985
  1/4 routes with unplugged DSU
  1 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (100.0%)
Dongle: 6fea1470edf96da9
  1/77 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)
Dongle: 443fc6ac84d80c7e
  1/143 routes with unplugged DSU
  1 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (100.0%)
Dongle: 143cfcefed9953a9
  1/2 routes with unplugged DSU
  1 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (100.0%)
Dongle: 0443b3be6f07d85b
  1/239 routes with unplugged DSU
  0 of these DSU unplug routes were >30s accFaulted (0.0%)

@github-actions github-actions bot added car related to opendbc/car/ toyota labels Dec 5, 2025
@sshane sshane merged commit 15b8354 into master Dec 5, 2025
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@sshane sshane deleted the rm-enable-dsu branch December 5, 2025 07:51
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